Posts by Left in the Cold

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Disgusting

by Vegas Girl in

i was reading the find whitney heichel page of fb and the moderator has posted info about another missing girl in oregon (non-jw) well, apparantley this missing girl has some sort of a past or something and people are getting on the site (mostly jw's) and making rude remarks about this girl has a bad past and that it's prob her fault.

i can't fathom how they can get on there after the horrible tragedy of whitney and yet because this other missing girl is not jw somehow now they attach fault to her going missing.

this is exactly why i can't deal with jw's.

Left in the Cold

In thinking about Whitney's case, she obviously knew her attacker. To me, I would have reason to hope he'd let me go because its this person I've known for a long time. He's not a murderer in my eyes. If I can just get through this horrible ordeal, he'll let me go. So she complied.

Im only speculating. But I think that's how I would feel about it. But then, the percentage of people murdered by people they know is pretty high. Still, "hope springs eternal in the human breast". I'm sure she was likely hopeful through most of it. Hopeful that she would be released, I mean. So, so sad.

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I just bought "What

by Left in the Cold in

Left in the Cold

Sorry. My cat attacked my iPad. I started over. Sorry. I'm still trying to figure everything out.

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I just bought "What has Religion Done for Mankind" at an estate sale...

by Left in the Cold in

it's copy right 1951. it is so different than the things i learned from 79-today.

wt heavily relied upon wwi to show that god's kingdom was established in 1914 etc.

chapter 24 is called "the remnant restored from mystic babylon".

Left in the Cold

It's copy right 1951. It is so different than the things I learned from 79-today. WT heavily relied upon WWI to show that God's kingdom was established in 1914 etc. Chapter 24 is called "The Remnant Restored from Mystic Babylon". But there are emphasis on certain ideas that are hardly, if ever spoken of now. It's almost like it was a different religion then. Guess a lot has changed. Most of you probably have or had this book. Sorry. I'd never seen it. I only paid $.50. I was a little excited. Sorry.

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I just bought "What

by Left in the Cold in

Left in the Cold

17

Disgusting

by Vegas Girl in

i was reading the find whitney heichel page of fb and the moderator has posted info about another missing girl in oregon (non-jw) well, apparantley this missing girl has some sort of a past or something and people are getting on the site (mostly jw's) and making rude remarks about this girl has a bad past and that it's prob her fault.

i can't fathom how they can get on there after the horrible tragedy of whitney and yet because this other missing girl is not jw somehow now they attach fault to her going missing.

this is exactly why i can't deal with jw's.

Left in the Cold

I sort of thought that would probably have been the case. That's so sad. Thanks, Undercover.

Btw, just a personal opinion, but I think some JWs are the most judgmental people I have ever met.

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Disgusting

by Vegas Girl in

i was reading the find whitney heichel page of fb and the moderator has posted info about another missing girl in oregon (non-jw) well, apparantley this missing girl has some sort of a past or something and people are getting on the site (mostly jw's) and making rude remarks about this girl has a bad past and that it's prob her fault.

i can't fathom how they can get on there after the horrible tragedy of whitney and yet because this other missing girl is not jw somehow now they attach fault to her going missing.

this is exactly why i can't deal with jw's.

Left in the Cold

That is sad, but It made me wonder that if a similar situation were to occur except the victim lived, and the victim went to the police, admitted sexual assault (forced to perform oral sex), and the offender denied it, would the victim then be subject to some type of 'punishment' by the WT if there was no evidence to support her claim legally? I mean, she would have admitted it to police thus making a confession. This is totally hypothetical. Interesting thought, though...

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Are the Adventists looking to attract downtrodden JW's?

by donny in

sorry if anyone has already posted on this but i did not see anything related in the few pages of active topics i checked.. last saturday i went to an oil change facilty and one of their perks is they give you a copy of the current usa today while you wait in your car.

on page 8a is a full page ad titled "liberty of conscience threatened.... a national sunday law will be established as the mark of the beast.".

the article then goes on a typical adventist rant about how saturday, not sunday, is the real sabbath established by god.

Left in the Cold

Having worked with a devout SAD for a few years, I can tell you that they still claim to follow Old Testment laws/rules, or some of them, anyway. No pork. Jewish Holidays (as has been mentioned). Things like that. She took their Sabbath very seriously. No tv or anything from Friday sun down to Saturday sun down.

Also, I had a phychiarist a few years back that told me there are more people right now turning to these very restrictive religions with a lot of rules than ever before. Of course, he was Amish. Yes, Amish.

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Survey: Who here is an atheist? Who here still believes in God?

by Christ Alone in

jw
friends

i just wanted to take a survey.

let's not let this get into the same old same old debate of atheism vs belief.

just respond with "atheist" or "believer" or "maybe god exists".

Left in the Cold

I believe in God. Right now anyway.

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My Introduction

by Left in the Cold in

i have posted on here a little, and i thought i should probably introduce myself the best i can right now.

i stumbled upon this site and told my sister about it.

then, sometime later she started discussing things with me that's she has seen or read (she's in therapy, as well, which probably has made her kind of rethink things).

Left in the Cold

Thank you, everyone. It's very nice to be able to talk to people who understand. I thought after being reinstated that I would move to a different part of the state I'm in. I have that move already planned for early spring to go back to school. Just go off the radar, so to speak.

How did I get disfellowshipped twice? You guys know the JW answer to that one. I wasn't repentant enough, right?

I haven't made my mind up for certain about reinstatement. Your comments on the subject are very thought provoking. My sister says the same thing. I am still thinking on it.

I look very forward to meeting many of you on here. Thank you again for your support. Very much.

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My Introduction

by Left in the Cold in

i have posted on here a little, and i thought i should probably introduce myself the best i can right now.

i stumbled upon this site and told my sister about it.

then, sometime later she started discussing things with me that's she has seen or read (she's in therapy, as well, which probably has made her kind of rethink things).

Left in the Cold

Hi Everyone. I have posted on here a little, and I thought I should probably introduce myself the best I can right now. I stumbled upon this site and told my sister about it. Then, sometime later she started discussing things with me that's she has seen or read (she's in therapy, as well, which probably has made her kind of rethink things). We were born ins. I am currently df'd. I am trying to get reinstated, but my heart is not in it. I have some older friends I want to help when the time comes that they may need it. They would accept me as inactive but not df'd. There are very personal issues involved in this that I'd rather not go into, but suffice it to say, I'm trying due to the "friends & family" reason.

My marriage fell apart earlier this year and that devastated me. I have struggled with deep depression over this to the point of hospitalization earlier this summer. Like a lot of former (and current) JW's, I have anxiety disorders and all that good stuff.

I'm female, mid thirties, and still very confused. I don't believe the GB has the abilities they are given credit for having. In fact, I can't really see as they're needed at all. Being on the outside as a df'd one (twice) has made me question many things. I feel like I have the potential to be free of all the feelings of impending doom, never being good enough, constant guilt, and so on. But it hasn't happened over night, and I think that's probably normal especially for a 'born in'. So most days I try to keep my head above the water as far as the depression. I am being treated for it. And I've been doing research for myself and trying to understand things that I never thought to question before. I get no support emotionally from any JW, and I have found much more support here than I ever thought. Many things have changed and are changing for me right now. My head kind of spins at times. But this is my 'little' story, and I'm so glad there are ones here who care and listen and understand. I think, in the end, that's all most of us want. Btw, my spelling is atrocious. And I apologize in advance for future spelling errors. :)

Thanks